Clarification on the Legacy Hobby Plan

I have a Legacy Hobby Plan and I know that there is an free allowance for me which is:

  • Up to 3 shared-cpu-1x 256mb VMs
  • 3GB persistent volume storage (total)
  • Outbound data transfer:
    • 100 GB North America & Europe
    • 30 GB Asia Pacific, Oceania & South America
    • 30 GB Africa & India

What I am not sure of is if the free 3 shared-cpu-1x 256mb VMs are applicable on any region.

Thanks.

My understanding is that this is now implemented as a $6/month credit, so some regions will consume it more quickly than others.

You can see this happening ā€œliveā€ā€  in the Billing part of the dashboard, under Active Credits > Show breakdown.

Hope this helps!

ā€ Live-ish, anyway. I donā€™t know what the exact refresh/synch interval is, :turtle:ā€¦

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Are the free allowances still available now that the legacy hobby plan is gone?

The Pay as You Go plan doesnā€™t have them, but most of the others still do.

(The only other exception that Iā€™m aware of is the initial trial portion of the early-2024 Hobby Planā€”before it shifts you into its $5/month phase.)

In terms of new signups, though, theyā€™re only available with plans that carry a ā‰„$29/month commitment. This makes them a little vestigialā€¦

Iā€™m super confused by the change in billing. I run a tiny app in a single region. I purchased credits to start off testing, early in 2024, but now itā€™s eating my credits every monthā€¦ I thought I read somewhere that they still dont bill < $5.00, but itā€™s still eating my credits. It looks like Iā€™m on the hobby plan. When I open the invoice, it shows $0.00, but still ate $5.00 of my credits.

Iā€™m trying to figure out if Iā€™m on the right plan or not.

Yea for some reason Fly decided to consume credits before the $5 threshold. Iā€™m guessing some VC heads sitting on the board pushed for that decision (see the recent layoffs at Fly)

You actually might be better off on the Pay as You Go plan, but it depends on the details. For truly tiny deployments, the rough preference hierarchy is: Legacy Hobby Plan > Pay as You Go > early-2024 Hobby Plan.

Basically, the first one wasnā€™t viable (for continued enrollments) for Fly as a company, and the last wasnā€™t that popular with customers.

@khuezyā€™s first sentence about the $5 waiver is unfortunately true, but you still might end up paying less. (Just not zero.)

(I doubt the speculative part, though; Iā€™ve never worked with VCs myself, but Private Equity types, their close cousins, are remarkably non-detailed. The odds that one of them said, "My Chicago minions, you may keep the demonic goat with ā€˜SOC2ā€™ branded on its hindquarters, if you must, but start consuming credits immediately," are close to nilā€¦)

If you have the early-2024 Hobby Plan then the $5 is probably just the fee for the plan itselfā€”independent of actual resource usage. The $0 might be the amount remaining after deducting from credits.

The most recent invoice should show a breakdown of various charges, or you could look on the Billing part of the dashboard under Preview Invoice to see how the current month is shaping upā€¦

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Youā€™re rightā€¦ it looks like the $0 is the balance due after they take my credit. Looking at the billing detail, it looks like they charge me 0.40 for volumes, 0.02 for bandwidth and 4.07 for cpu which is pretty close that that $5 theyā€™re taking from my credits.

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